[2019] R5 Titans v Panthers - Game Day Thread

i think for coaches its about one thing…“the team”
sure we may say a player should be dropped but the coach has a broader view about how the team sticks tight in adversity…yadda yadda yada

and as a result the team responds by more often then not punching through as a group and when a win comes the errors from some seem less important

personally i wouldn’t have dropped anyone and as i suggested moving DWZ to FB and Edwards to wing is what Cleary did.

I also suggested Cleary and Maloney should rotate back to their sides of last year and believe this may help settle the team both offensively and defensively

perhaps that may happen mid game v Titans if we are behind at half time

SBF I understand what your saying and agree to a point, However, the ‘team’ is a 25 man roster as part of the salary cap, any 1 of those 25 are either capable or have the potential to perform in the top grade. If you maintain the status quo with poor performances, you are sending a glaring message to the 18-25 playing group.

I don’t want to lose the likes of Luai or Martin (he looks the goods) but if they cannot get an opportunity when it SHOULD be available due to poor form, then 15 other clubs will start sniffing around, that in itself will breed complacency.

I’m definitely not saying drop someone after 1 bad game, but Edwards first 4 performances have been average at best…and he is not alone!!!

… well said, 100% agree. :sunglasses:

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OK Luai in to 17 for Egan, so maybe a change in strategy??

Just about to start my pre-game, leaving work in about 5 mins, heading home to put on my game shirt & to take my seat in front of TV. I’m sure there will be a beer for me :slight_smile:

C’mon boys!!!

If we don’t start with an attitude of “the world is against us” vs the titans we will get towelled up. This should be a game of personal passion given the players and coach, if this situation doesn’t excite us, not a lot will.

Let’s hope it’s a team effort not a personal “look at me” contest

well they are 2 teams who have the worst scoring in the comp and we have the worst completion rate

in short its the cellar dwellers playing for scraps or will the real Panthers turn up and turn it on?

I shudder to think the what if’s if we lose

if Kelly wasn’t in front of the kicker and within 10 metres of the ball coming down i will give the game away.
Looks like we are playing 14 tonight…the players plus the video ref

Dylan just watch the way Jimmy handles a loose ball in the in goal. :tired_face:

RCG got to the shed early to brush his moustache. Hope they
pointed out his errors to him in between grooming.

Titans playing a patient error free game and go to the sheds in charge.

Don’t think there’s enough beer in Mr Walkers fridge to soothe him.

its a little sad watching this…unless we change what we are doing this mob who are almost playing with Taylor will lap us
Mistakes, poor choices, errors, penalties …mmmmmm

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absolutely dreadful from start to finish.

The ironic thing is that was almost our best performance this year.

Titans certainly turned up to play. Not sure exactly I can put my finger on this loss, definitely discipline and penalty problems, maybe patience?

If Maloney leads the comp with in goal repeat sets, why aren’t we capitalising and deneying teams possession?

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its structure and patience, and you add in errors and penalties its reflective of a side without any sense of a game plan and or game management
I ve been banging on for ages about game management and how the great teams do it, like Storm and Roosters.
This is going to be a long ugly season and just watch the leaks from within the club this week.

As far as our energy, ball movement & attack is concerned, I thought it was our best game this year. Unfortunately missed tackles, along with stupid errors & penalties killed us.

Oh my, I was sort of numb at the end of the game, and it was not the beer as I only had a couple :slight_smile: I do no know what to make of it all.

We overall made less errors, although a couple were crucial. Our defence was ordinary, and yet teams are scoring most of their tries from kicks. We scored 24 points against a very poor team, and managed to lose. And in scoring 24 points we actually looked very clunky in attack - poor options & timing inhibited our attack.

Fisher-Harris was again our best & a heavily marked Billy was right up there.

I don’t have the answers, but clearly an off-season was wasted & our preparation needs a step-up. It’s as if they just expect that we will win…

a point you made sort of sums up the mess we are in…you score 24 points yet you get beaten

That says a lot about the other mobs defence but says more about us.

Prior to last night we had the second worst attack in the comp and of all teams just ahead of the Titans and they scored more then us last night

We either took our eyes or effort out of defence and switched to lets score points yet we couldnt execute that strategy and essentially were terrible on both sides of the ball.

And our season is worse then the ladder suggests imo…our 2 wins were the Knights game which could have gone either way and the Tigers win was a nothing more than a miracle

We play Sharks this Thursday at Shark Park and they will be no pushovers.

Where do we go from here?

Mansour looks like he has just signed a 10 year contract and wants to avoid any sort of effort or contact.
RCG is worse, cannot remember his last break or last forward he actually hurt and the penalty rate from him is terrible.

Maloney is a mixed blessing and sure he can be creative but can be be destructive as well but in the halves defence if the forwards aren’t controlling the play by their effort its hard for the backs to get the room to weave magic.

Whare is out of his depth but is saved by the fact we don’t have another quality centre in the club and i would have been thinking of moving Yeo there but he has now picked up a long term injury

Can Cleary change what is happening…that is the question and the mark of a great coach.

I personally doubt he would ever be a great coach and maybe is one of those guys who just does enough to be a NRL coach as opposed to being a lower grade coach. We will see.

With the Yeo injury i would now draw a line in the sand with this mockery of 6 Captains…appoint 1 and live and die by that choice but at least from a Coaching perspective its a decision and maybe this divestment of responsibility with so many Captains has diluted the authority of a Captain and the leadership role both in a victory and in a defeat.

I just see no one taking any ownership of our form…sure they are saying the right things to the media but the right things are not happening in a game.

For the last few years under Hook we played harlem football, sure we leaked some points but boy could we score some

Now we are leaking points and lack the ability to score them at a rate required because we are devoid of options.

I do note we have gone back to the midfield bombs which were a hallmark of the previous Cleary era…and appears all we have.

No sweeping backline moves, now magical set plays, NO power running by forwards at forwards to break down defences.

At face value where we sit today…signing Cleary to keep Cleary seems like a good idea which has badly backfired.

Only 1 person who can change that perception…lets see what Cleary the coach does this week.

On the bright side September is looking free at the moment.

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Noticed today that Tim Grant was rested from todays game. Might have to do with the short turn around for next week’s game against Cronulla.

I expect he will be named in the starting squad on Tuesday.

watched the reserve grade yesterday. Not much to get excited about there. The played just like 1st grade - errors, penalties, poor options & poor defence, and got lapped by a team that gave up 50 last week.

I fear there is a serious issue within our club. Good players are playing badly & possible options are not playing any better.

Only way is up!

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